Finally Comments - Moderate comment threads hide/delete

in utopian-io •  6 months ago

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https://Finallycomments.com

Repository

https://github.com/code-with-sam/finallycomments/

Finally Comments is an embeddable comments system powered by the STEEM blockchain. The aim of this project is to promote the STEEM ecosystem by breaking the comments system out of the walls of STEEM based apps replacing popular comments systems like Disqus & Facebook comments plugin. Comment threads can be created from scratch or can use any existing STEEM comments thread.

New Features

Today I'm happy to release an update that brings moderation to Finallycomments. With the previous update, I introduced guest comments which opened the possibility for abuse without any controls for the website owner to react. With the introduction of moderation the owner of a thread can now hide any comment or delete any guest comment.

The owner of the thread is recognised as the user who created the custom thread (using the finally dashboard or API) or the root_author of a STEEM post if viewing a STEEM thread. Controls for hide + delete will automatically show on threads the user owns.

Not all comments are created equal.

Deleting comments is only possible for Guest comments (those created through the Finally interface by a user who is not authenticated). Guest commented when deleted have their author and content overwritten but a note remains in the thread both for continuity and as a limitation of the nested comment structure.

We can't delete other users content on the blockchain but we may still want the ability to hide it if it's inappropriate for any reason. Hiding comments is a purely UI change and will not have an impact on the raw data stored on the blockchain. Hidden comments can be revealed by the end-user .

Keeping it simple with a moderate in place approach. Rather than have a separate view on the backend dashboard a user can moderate any thread they own from the thread itself.

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Spammy/inappropriate comments by STEEM users can be hidden

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Guest comments can be deleted and content wiped

Moderation messages still show in the tree view to keep thread continuity.

Thoughts

To be honest I underestimated what would need to be included to implement this moderation. I need to store some form of reference to the deleted/hidden id or permlink to keep the thread structure intact. With that it means maintaining a full list of 'moderated' content and the action that was taken.

I had also not anticipated the multiple different moderation cases being STEEM/Guest/Guest Reply on both STEEM posts and Custom Posts It caught me out and I had to do an extra hotfix after this PR

Roadmap

We're one step closer on the roadmap, still with a full set of features to implement. If you're interested in what else is to come for Finally I wrote up some ideas ~3weeks ago (https://busy.org/@sambillingham/finally-comments-is-now-on-steemprojects-com). I had actually missed Moderation from that list.

If you have ideas, thoughts or requests you're welcome to add them below or on Github Issue tracker (https://github.com/code-with-sam/finallycomments/issues). Github currently has issues/features listed which may be of interest o Finally users.

Github

https://github.com/code-with-sam/finallycomments/pull/27

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Very cool! I tried leaving a comment but got this:

Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'reputation' of undefined
    at Object.createCommentTemplate (thread.js:607)
    at Object.appendSuccessfulComment (thread.js:357)
    at Object.$.post [as success] (thread.js:347)
    at i (jquery-3.2.1.min.js:2)
    at Object.fireWith [as resolveWith] (jquery-3.2.1.min.js:2)
    at A (jquery-3.2.1.min.js:4)
    at XMLHttpRequest.<anonymous> (jquery-3.2.1.min.js:4)

Here's my comment:

Very cool! I look forward to seeing where this goes. :)

Is each authentication via Steemconnect unique to the domain where Finally is installed or is someone always logged in to any site that uses Finally?

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Hey Luke. Thanks for checking out the project, really glad you think it's interesting.

Is each authentication via Steemconnect unique to the domain where Finally is installed or is someone always logged in to any site that uses Finally?

Finally is loaded in an iframe so the login state persists across all sites that use Finally.

Just tested and fixed the issue you noticed (https://github.com/code-with-sam/finallycomments/pull/29) thanks for sending the error message.

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A Great option to have, thanks for this post!

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That's really great and fine issue.

This will another good add on feature for this great Blockchain!

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Glad you think it adds value to the Blockchain. That's the plan! 👊

Thanks for the contribution!

That's so cool! I wouldn't even know where to begin if I tried implementing this, so major props to you!

One thing I'd recommend is that you try to avoid having lines of code that are very long. With Python they recommend that you limit it to 80 characters and I think JavaScript is either 80 or 100, but I could be wrong.

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Hey thanks Amos!

You're totally right! I get lazy working on my cinema display, then kick myself when I'm on the train with a 13" laptop. I do find it hard sometimes to decide between (overly) verbose function names and keeping statements short. I think in general I want to/need to focus more on readability and improve my patterns, I'm sure there are a lot more new ES6 javascript patterns that can tidy things up.

I think it might be 80, which I totally havent thought about for awhile! 🙈

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Take a look at Prettier. I use it with VS Code and I don't have to worry about the code formatting anymore - Prettier does it for me when saving.

I will implement it to my website ^,...,^
hope it will work nice :)

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this is so great! I can't imagine using this site without it.
Thank you very much!

Alot of good news in the last days make us more optimistic for the great future of this great platform.

Congrats on being noticed by @ned. I really like the idea and even though it's probably a feature that is more long term as it's at the end of the roadmap, a wordpress plugin that's easy to use will be such a useful thing for people wanting to monetise their existing blog.

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Thanks. I couldn't believe it. I am working towards the WP plugin, aim is still within the next few weeks.

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I got a better idea. Stop using wordpress :D

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Read your comment, then I stopped scratching my head 😜

Great work! This could become a huge part of Steem ecosystem and you seem to be working fast towards that goal, good for you :)

I read your previous post and even if I'm already ready to implement your tech to my site, I think being able to customize the look and add beneficiaries will be needed to really bring in others as well in numbers.

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Thanks for the support.

I think being able to customize the look and add beneficiaries will be needed to really bring in others as well in numbers.

I agree. This is on the list to add very soon.

Thanks for the support 👊

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Not all comments are created equal.

In terms of freedom of speech they are. Giving people the ability to delete peoples posts is very dangerous ground to walk on. You DO NOT want steem to become an echo chamber breeding ground like facebook twitter and reddit. Its very bad for the political landscape.

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Not all comments are created equal.

Please read the post. This is in reference to Guest Posts (those that are not authenticated by the STEEM blockchain), which are far easier to abuse. Comments added by a STEEM user can not be deleted.

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I see. Sorry about that. I kind of just got triggered like an idiot when I saw "deleting comments" aspect. Which isn't even possible on this tech.

Wow I’m excited!thank you for this post 👍🏽
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Wao! Its really a great project. Its of a great added value to steemit. I love it @sambillingham I will upvost, reesteem to get more to steemians.

So, ... a website to view a decentralized social platform,
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and make it seem the same as more familiar platforms.

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it's not "a website to view a decentralized social platform". This assumes Finally has anything to do with Seeemit, Busy etc while it might do, it in no way needs to.

Finally is an incentivized comments system that rewards Authors and interaction between commenters.

Thats so cool . Excellent Article

This looks like a great improvement to the current commenting system!

A Great improvement in the system

thanks for this post. great explanation.

i disagree on this article....i believe steemit blockachain was build on transparency...If not so, then you guys show add the feature of hiding your wallet too... @ned @utopian-oi @blocktrades and others,,,

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@smokeasare165 I believe you are misunderstanding this project. I still believe in the blockchain as a transparent store of content. First this feature only relates to Finally comments, this interface, while it uses STEEM is completely separate from Steemit/Busy/Utopian. Other interfaces are free to represent data as they wish. FinallyComments allows guests to comment on the threads, (guests are those that do not have a STEEM account) because these guest accounts are not part of the blockchain and therefore can not be flagged there needs to be an alternative way to moderate these comments. This is also all still heavily WIP!

The hope/aim is that creating accounts will be more seamless in future and there may be a better solution than using "guest" accounts.

I'm gonna try this, I think it's great idea to make this kind of script, I'll follow you and try support as much as I can

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not working

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Please can you explain what is "not working"?

Cool update!

No no no....don't merge Facebook into Steem!

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😂that is not happening

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You do know that Facebook has rejected any links to Steem on any post right?

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That is not true.

Please don't merge Facebook into Steem!

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k, will let Mark know we have changed our minds....

Another great step to a positive direction. This is really cool feature to really add some spice to the blockchain.
Thanks for the tips

Thank you for this post. Hope it will help many people

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This sound like some threat to people who engage in just spamming different boxes. 😂
Well, I guess they'll stop now. Isn't it? Lol.

1. A good question here, hope the hidden comments can be retrieved on Finallycomments?

2. How do you intend to differentiate between “FinallyComments”and a “scam link” cos the both look alike...

Reveal comments/Show comment

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This is a scam link, compare with FinallyComments

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hey, The intention is just to give control to the website owners who will use Finally Comments on their websites. They may have little Steem Power so expecting them to be able to Flag in the traditional means may not be enough.

  1. A good question here, hope the hidden comments can be retrieved on Finallycomments?

Yes they can, hidden comments are just flagged as hidden and can be un-hidden just as easily (although i've not implemented that yet)

  1. How do you intend to differentiate between “FinallyComments”and a “scam link” cos the both look alike...

I have not yet implemented flagging on FinallyComments. It will look different, with a note about flags being from the community and to show at your own risk

Thanks for the Q's

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hey, The intention is just to give control to the website owners who will use Finally Comments on their websites. They may have little Steem Power so expecting them to be able to Flag in the traditional means may not be enough.

Then they should be powerless. If you remove the power dynamic of steem power then it might as well not exist at all.

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I like the sams vision better since it serves the adopters of this tech, the site owners.

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Thats great

Good feature for the blockhain friend of mine continue like this. Greetings @sambillingham

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My question is if by using your app I hide some comments which were made on my posts by some other account - would they be hidden if I see that post on steemit, busy, esteem etc or not?

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No. You can not control how another website or interface will show comments on the blockchain. Each website controls how they display blockchain data.

When embedding a comments thread using FinallyComments on a website the owner of that thread has the ability to moderate the comments. Moderation is strickly linked to FinallyComments and is therefore only viewed when looking at data through the FinallyComments website or embed.

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I am still not very clear how and where to use yr product

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It is still early days for this product and I have not written full documentation/guides yet.

if you read through the post releases at https://finallycomments.com/#news it ill give you a better understanding.

in a nutshell finally comments is to be used by embedding it into your own blog or website.

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